Changes: A Missing Child

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A Missing Child is a side quest to help Kaitlyn find her missing brother, Bevin, in the undead-plagued Redcliffe Village. If The Warden speaks to Kaitlyn, who is sobbing inside the Redcliffe Village Chantry next to the chantry door, she will ask you to find him.

You must complete this before the nighttime battle.

Walkthrough

Telling Kaitlyn not to worry and that you will look for her brother raises Wynne's approval by (+1) and Leliana's by (+1).

Stepping outside the Chantry, turn right and The Warden will be facing towards Kaitlyn's House.

Kaitlyn's House

Head inside and enter the bedroom to the right. The Warden will find Bevin hiding in a dresser. Wynne will order Bevin to come out immediately. Sten will threaten to burn him out.

The Warden can either:

Persuade/Intimidate Bevin to say why he was in the house. He will tell you about his grandfather's sword that he wanted to use to defend the town, but was too young to lift.
Persuade/Intimidate Bevin to give you the key, or promise to pay Kaitlyn afterwards. He will give you the key. The Warden may head upstairs and retrieve the sword from the chest. Bevin will be at the Chantry when you return.
Fail to Persuade/Intimidate Bevin. Bevin will refuse to cooperate and run back to the Chantry. You will not be able to ask about the sword afterwards.

Note: Improved coercion is required for the first persuade and intimidate dialogue options. Expert coercion is required for the rest of the persuade dialogue options.

Return to the Chantry

Once you return to the Chantry speak to Kaitlyn again. If you got the sword from her home you can mention it to her (and get a lot of approval changes).

Mentioning the Sword:
- Leliana (+1)
- Wynne (+1)

If you promised Bevin to pay for the sword and you tell Kaitlyn about this promise Alistair (+2)

Paying her 5 (500 ):
- Leliana (+5)
- Morrigan (-5)
- Oghren (-3)
- Wynne (+2)

Paying her 1 (100 ):
- Leliana (+2)
- Morrigan (-3)
- Sten (+2)
- Wynne (+1)

Paying her 15 or 50 :
- Leliana (-3)
- Sten (-3)

Thank her and give her nothing, or say No? Good.
- If Sten is in the party he will state that The helpless need not ask what is deserved. The sword is valuable. Sten (-10):
  - If you have at least 1 Sten will give Kaitlyn one of your gold (pay 1 ).
  - If you do not have at least 1 :
    - Alistair (-8)
    - Leliana (-5)
    - Morrigan (+2)
    - Wynne (+1)
- If Sten is not in the party:
  - Alistair (-3)
  - Leliana (-5)
  - Morrigan (+2)

Tell her you’ll return it after the battle. She tells you to use it well and she’ll gladly take it back after the battle.

Note: After The Attack at Nightfall is finished you can talk to her again about returning the sword (or compensating her for it).

If you opt to pay for the sword, and then change your mind or accept Kaitlyn's statement that she could not take payment for it, you will receive these approval changes:

Alistair (-2)
Leliana (-5)
Morrigan (+2)

Tell her it won’t go to waste:
- If Sten is in the party he says such a thing of value should be paid for. You get the monetary choices listed above.
- If Alistair is in the party he says you should offer her something in exchange. Alistair (-3). You get the monetary choices listed above (Alistair’s disapproval amount is on top of any Approval change made when you give Kaitlyn any money).
- If neither Sten nor Alistair are in the party then Leliana (-5).

Other options:

On the downloaded ps3 version, if you bring up the sword before the battle, you lose the option to give it back or buy it after the battle.

Not possible on pc v 1.04: Paying her 5 via dialogue option No, it certainly won't go to waste.:
- Alistair (-3)
- Leliana (+5)
- Oghren (-3)
- Wynne (+3)

After you have discussed the sword with her (or chosen not to mention it):

A male Warden can ask for a kiss from Kaitlyn as a reward for saving her brother, and approval/disapproval varies depending on whether or not the Warden is currently romancing a companion in the group.
- If you tell her you were only joking and not to be silly:
  - If Leliana is at neutral approval, Leliana (+1).
- If you kiss her:
  - Leliana (-10). If she is neutral towards the Warden, you receive no approval hit for the kiss.
  - If you are in a romance with Morrigan (-3).
  - Wynne (-1).
- If you tell her you were only joking and "a smile will do":
  - Leliana (-1).
  - Morrigan will gag (-3).
  - Wynne (-1).

Tell her Bevin was more trouble then he was worth:
- Leliana (-1).
- Wynne (-1).

You also have the option to help evacuate Kaitlyn and Bevin to Denerim after the battle. This option is available regardless of whether the sword was obtained, and is based primarily on how much money you give her.

Result

Other than the money you may lose, you will receive The Green Blade, a decent one-handed sword.
If you opt to return the sword after the battle it will be reported in the Epilogue that Bevin became a famous adventurer and told stories about how as a young lad, he met The Warden, who used his father's blade to save Redcliffe and then passed it back.
If Kaitlyn and Bevin are sent to Denerim with enough money, then the Epilogue will report that Kaitlyn and Bann Teagan eventually met in Denerim and married.

Rewards

100 XP - Received after talking to Kaitlyn, for returning Bevin to her.

Bugs

pcps3xbox360 If the Warden elects to return The Green Blade after the battle, Kaitlyn will take it; however, the item remains in the Warden's inventory after the quest is completed. (Confirmed on PC, X360, & PS3). This is confirmed to happen if the sword is assigned to a companion who is not currently in the party at the time; otherwise it will be removed correctly. (PC 1.04 still bug although equip in active party member. In this case, Alistair.)

pcxbox360If the Warden attempts to return The Green Blade to Kaitlyn after the battle and has it equipped, she will take it and you will net the approval and disapproval values from the various party members, however the blade will remain in your inventory and equipped to the Warden.

pcxbox360You cannot complete this quest after the battle in Redcliffe Village, but it will remain in your quest log.

As of 1.04 the quest will update if you don't complete it before Redcliffe village battle, saying:

"Night fell and the undead creatures started attacking Redcliffe before you could locate Bevin. You don't know if Kaitlyn ever found her brother and made it to safety, and perhaps you'll never find out"

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 === Return to the Chantry ===
-Once you return to the Chantry you will have the option of speaking to Kaitlyn again. You can choose to mention the sword (and get a lot of approval changes), or avoid talking about the sword and get a simple.
+Once you return to the Chantry speak to Kaitlyn again. If you got the sword from her home you can mention it to her (and get a lot of approval changes).
-* Not mentioning the Sword:
+* Mentioning the Sword:
-** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|1}}
+** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|+1}}
-** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|1}}
+** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|+1}}
+If you promised Bevin to pay for the sword and you tell Kaitlyn about this promise [[Alistair]] {{Approval|+2}}
-If you promised Bevin to pay for the sword and you choose dialogue option: ''I promised ...'' then [[Alistair]] {{Approval|2}} if you give any amount of money. The effects of the various pay options are as follows:
 * Paying her 5 {{G}} (500 {{S}}):
-** [[Alistair]] promise: {{Approval|2}} {{platforms|ps3|xbox360}}
+** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|+5}}
-** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|5}}
 ** [[Morrigan]] {{Approval|-5}}
 ** [[Oghren]] {{Approval|-3}}
-** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|3}}
+** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|+2}}
 * Paying her 1 {{G}} (100 {{S}}):
-** [[Alistair]] promise: {{Approval|2}} {{platforms|ps3|xbox360}}
+** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|+2}}
-** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|3}}
 ** [[Morrigan]] {{Approval|-3}}
-** [[Sten]] {{Approval|2}}
+** [[Sten]] {{Approval|+2}}
-** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|2}}
+** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|+1}}
 * Paying her 15 {{S}} or 50 {{S}}:
-** [[Alistair]] promise: {{Approval|2}} {{platforms|ps3|xbox360}}
+** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|-3}}
-** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|-2}}
 ** [[Sten]] {{Approval|-3}}
-** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|1}}
+* Thank her and give her nothing, or say ''No? Good.''
-If Sten is in your party he will intervene if you choose the ''Thank you'' or ''No, good!'' dialogue options and state that ''The helpless need not ask what is deserved. The sword is valuable.'':
-* If Sten is in your party and you have at least 1 {{G}}, Sten will give Kaitlyn one of your gold (pay 1 {{G}}):
+** If Sten is in the party he will state that ''The helpless need not ask what is deserved. The sword is valuable.'' [[Sten]] {{Approval|-10}}:
+*** If you have at least 1 {{G}} Sten will give Kaitlyn one of your gold (pay 1 {{G}}).
-** [[Alistair]] promise: {{Approval|2}} {{platforms|ps3|xbox360}} ?
+*** If you do not have at least 1 {{G}}:
-** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|1}}
-** [[Sten]] {{Approval|-10}}
+**** [[Alistair]] {{Approval|-8}}
-** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|1}}
+**** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|-5}}
+**** [[Morrigan]] {{Approval|+2}}
-* Otherwise:
-** [[Alistair]] {{Approval|-6}}
+**** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|1}}
+** If Sten is not in the party:
-** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|-4}}
-** [[Morrigan]] {{Approval|2}}
+*** [[Alistair]] {{Approval|-3}}
-** [[Sten]] {{Approval|-10}}
+*** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|-5}}
-** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|1}}
+*** [[Morrigan]] {{Approval|+2}}
+* Tell her you’ll return it after the battle. She tells you to use it well and she’ll gladly take it back after the battle.
+{{Note|After [[The Attack at Nightfall]] is finished you can talk to her again about returning the sword (or compensating her for it).
+If you opt to pay for the sword, and then change your mind or accept Kaitlyn's statement that she could not take payment for it, you will receive these approval changes:
+* [[Alistair]] {{Approval|-2}}
+* [[Leliana]] {{Approval|-5}}
+* [[Morrigan]] {{Approval|2}}}}
+* Tell her it won’t go to waste:
+** If [[Sten]] is in the party he says such a thing of value should be paid for. You get the monetary choices listed above.
+** If [[Alistair]] is in the party he says you should offer her something in exchange. Alistair {{Approval|-3}}. You get the monetary choices listed above (Alistair’s disapproval amount is on top of any Approval change made when you give Kaitlyn any money).
+** If neither Sten nor Alistair are in the party then [[Leliana]] {{Approval|-5}}.
 Other options:
 * On the downloaded {{platforms|ps3}} version, if you bring up the sword before the battle, you lose the option to give it back or buy it after the battle.
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 ** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|3}}
-* If you opt to return the sword after the battle, you will immediately get:
+After you have discussed the sword with her (or chosen not to mention it):
+* A male Warden can ask for a kiss from Kaitlyn as a reward for saving her brother, and approval/disapproval varies depending on whether or not the Warden is currently romancing a companion in the group.
-** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|1}}
+** If you tell her you were only joking and not to be silly:
-** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|1}}
+*** If Leliana is at neutral approval, [[Leliana]] {{Approval|+1}}.
+** If you kiss her:
-And then if you actually do go back to Kaitlyn in the Chantry after the battle it's still possible to pay for the sword getting the same approval results as above, or it's possible to return the sword with or without approval changes depending on dialogue choices.
+*** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|-10}}. If she is neutral towards the Warden, you receive no approval hit for the kiss.
-*If you opt to pay for the sword, and then change your mind or accept Kaitlyn's statement that she could not take payment for it, you will receive these approval changes:
-**[[Alistair]] {{Approval|-2}}
+*** If you are in a romance with [[Morrigan]] {{Approval|-3}}.
-**[[Leliana]] {{Approval|-5}}
+*** Wynne {{Approval|-1}}.
+** If you tell her you were only joking and "a smile will do":
-**[[Morrigan]] {{Approval|2}}
+*** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|-1}}.
+*** [[Morrigan]] will gag {{Approval|-3}}.
+*** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|-1}}.
+* Tell her Bevin was more trouble then he was worth:
-A male Warden (no matter if you paid for the sword or avoided talking about it) can ask for a kiss from Kaitlyn as a reward for saving her brother, and approval/disapproval varies depending on whether or not the Warden is currently romancing a companion in the group.
+** [[Leliana]] {{Approval|-1}}.
-* If you persist, this results in {{Approval|-10}} from [[Leliana]]. If she is neutral towards the Warden, you receive no approval hit for the kiss. Alternatively, if you choose the "I was only joking" option, at neutral, [[Leliana]] gives {{Approval|1}}.
-* If you are in a romance with [[Morrigan]] and go through with the kiss, you will suffer {{Approval|-3}}.
+** [[Wynne]] {{Approval|-1}}.
-* Wynne slightly disapproves if you proceed with the kiss {{Approval|-1}}.
-* If you choose "No need dear, a smile will do", [[Morrigan]] will gag {{Approval|-3}}.
 You also have the option to help evacuate Kaitlyn and Bevin to [[Denerim]] after the battle. This option is available regardless of whether the sword was obtained, and is based primarily on how much money you give her.