^In the beginning she had different horns that resembled like those of the electricity dragons. So I wanted to really lean into that and gave her purple eyes, a focus on the strom tree and completed the very subtle picture by going down the Qunlat word list here on the wiki and calling her the most storm/lightning associated thing I could find. Thankfully, I didn't even have to go past A to find "Thunderstorm" xD.
Female, 30, Switzerland.
Adaar was my "main" playthrough. What can I say? I'm a hobbit in real life, so I like playing tall women in my games, like the Altmer in Elder Scrolls. Bonus points if they are so dragon-y (I absolutely love dragons).
Some hold in the Frostbacks. Besides Avvar people and culture just being the most overall appealing to me, having a hold beast would be dope and I like mountains and a cold climate.
The only thing I would miss is easy access to books, but nothing is perfect.
Definitely the 'Modern Girl in Thedas' trope. It just doesn't appeal to me at all, not only for Dragon Age, but for pretty much every fandom I'm in.
Genderbend would probably be a close second, though I admit that I am a bit more flexible when it comes to the character's sexual orientation.
@CaiusGermanicus Yeah, I disliked that part too. I get that it was done to streamline the possible worldstates, but in doing so, they made Vivienne a massive hypocrite.
Instead of joining the new Divine-approved College and helping to work out a new system that works for both mages and non-mages alike, she resurrects the Circle and adds more tension into the mix, with people now possibly fearing an inter-mage conflict.
For all her fancy rethoric about how mages have to make sacrifices for the greater good, she sure was quick to throw that out the window for her shiny Grand Enchanter title.
Inspired for the fairy tale ending, Steeled for the more realistic one.
Cassandra pretty much just goes back to the system that was there before, with a few vague fixes thrown on top. Give it a few decades, and everyone will probably have fallen back into their old patterns of behaviour. Which, given how explosively that ended, is maybe best avoided.
Now, I'm not saying Leliana's reforms don't also have a chance of going wrong, both with admitting the other races into the Chantry and allowing the new and independent College to work out a better system for mages. But at least she's trying something new. And at least for now, she seems to be pretty successful at it. Wether her changes prove to be too much in the long run, we'll have to see.
Vivienne is somwhere in-between for me. She does bring some change, though only for the mages and not both mages and non-humans. And her epilogues are undeniably the most bloody. Of all three choices, I think hers the most likely to end in tyranny, which would inevitably fall back on the mages as a whole. Still like her better than Cassandra tho.
I did both Celene and Briala reconciled and Gaspard as Briala's puppet. Basically just the ones where she becomes Marquise of the Dales, since I think an elf holding a title is such an important step for some much needed societal change.
Also, I just like Briala best out of the three, and I don't trust Celene or Gaspard to rule alone. Especially not Gaspard, that warmonger.
I'd give them parts of Orlais, namely the Western Approach, which Orlais is not really using anyway. That way there's be no resentment against them for displacing anyone.
It would of course suck in the beginning, it is abandoned for a reason, after all.
But Solas mentions in Inquisition that the land shows signs of recovery from the corruption. So if the elves could find a way to deal with the scarce ressources and harsh conditions for the time being (which they probably could, both the Dalish and City Elves are used to hardship, they would just have to adjust to a desert environment), the long-term benefits could be quite big, as the Western Approach was extremely fertile due to frequent rain (which presumably hasn't changed, the land was just too corrupted for anything to grow).
Another side benefit would be that the land is undesirable enough that it's doubtful they would have to fear anyone wanting a piece of it while they'd still be weak and in the process of building up their civilization.
And with the possibility of Briala as the Marquise of the Dales, they would have a pretty sympathetic neighbour on one side, who could help with ressources.
They would also have elves as neighbours in the Tirashan to the north, but since those seem to be isolationist followers of the Forgotten Ones and we don't know their stance on other elves, I don't know if that is positive or not.
Honestly, even if they fix all the issues with their society (unlikely), there's still the creeping infertility due to their proximity to a Blight-corrupted environment. We don't know yet if that is even reversible. If not, then Orzammar is slowly going to collapse from depopulation.
The Avvar. They're not technically a nation, since they are too fragmented. But they are a very distinct, separate culture and they do loosely hold sovereign territory with the Frostbacks (the surface, at least), and have done so for longer and more consistently than many of the other countries. So...good enough for me.
Well, as others have said, the name Inquisition comes with its own baggage from our viewpoint.
But despite the unfortunate name, I'd say the first Inquisition had at least a somewhat noble start. It was a relatively independent group (still Andrastian, but it predates the Chantry by almost a century) trying to restore some order in the very chaotic time after the First Blight and the fall of the Tevinter Imperium, which no doubt created a huge power vacuum.
From JoH/Ameridan we learn that they were a pretty mixed group, with members from all known races, as well as mages and non-mages. So even thought they were Andrastian, they likely weren't that much of a hard-line religious organization in the image of the later Templars or Seekers of Truth.
I've also read that their bad reputation came from the fact that they pissed off many powerful groups exactly because they worked so impartially. I'd say that is not unlikely, since with so many diverse members (and all the different motivations and sympathies/allegiances that come along with that), it would make sense for them to stick to the goal that brought them together.
Things get a bit more murky with the rise of Orlais. While I've never read anything about the Inquisition directly supporting Drakon's rampage across Thedas, Amerdian's friendship with Drakon would suggest that they at least worked with the new empire. I could imagine that this was very much the time when they started to lose their independence, either because Orlais became just too powerful, or they allied with them willingly because they saw Orlais as bringing an end to the chaos they fought against.
Things likely took a sharp nosedive when they officially became part of the Chantry, but at that point they stopped being the Inquisition anyways, so I don't think it would be fair to judge them based on the flaws of the succeeding organizations.
So overall, I'd say the Inquisition was more on the good side. Not flawless, and they certainly didn't leave the best legacy, but far from evil.
"The startings of a religion and the institution that is directly spawned from that start are too intertwined to just say they are too different things."
But that's the thing, it didn't directly spawn from that. Andraste's teachings were the legacy of a (no doubt charismatic) dead woman, written down and spread by her disciples in the form of the early Chant of Light only after she was no longer around to say anything about it. The very basis of the Chant is already their interpretation of her words. It then had nearly two centuries to be further interpreted in many different ways, that's why there were so many different "cults of the Maker". That specific Cirane version just got lucky that it eventually had a brilliant megalomaniac come along, with the drive and means to make it the dominant version. By slaughtering the persistent dissenters, btw.
We can't say for certain how much of Chantry doctrine is true to Andraste's original teachings, but if you think Drakon didn't form big parts of the Chantry around his imperialist agenda, you are naive.
Just take their "the Chant must be sung from all four corners of the world for the Maker to return". Who does it suit more? A rebel leader fighting for the freedom of her oppressed people? Or a prince with a "dream vision" that gave him the divine mandate to "redeem the world in the eyes of the Maker", aka "go out there and conquer as much as you want"?
"Saying that all the chantry has done has been an excuse for evils"
I never said that. I explicitly said the Chantry has done some good things. However, we are discussing if the Chantry is inherently evil (not that I'm a big fan of that word, I think corrupt or problematic is more realistic and less Disney villain), for which I think we have to look at the core tenets and their purpose based on the context of their creation. And there I think the answer is yes.
"Do you believe the march on the Dales was a massacre or something?"
Uhm, yes? There's no denying that both sides contributed to the conflict (though I can understand the Dalish stance, as short-sighted as it might have been) but Orlais obliterated them, then forced the remains into deplorable conditions that persist to the current time. That it was their "right" as the victor doesn't make it any less of a massacre.
"The Dales prohibited the worship of Andrastian, you know, the faith that gifted them that land in the first place, and forced all Andrastian priests from the country."
"If what you say is true then The Dales shouldn’t have even existed because the founders of the Chantry were the ones with the influence to actually give them said land"
The Dales were given to the elves by Maferath, as repayment for their not inconsiderable contributions during the rebellion. They already payed for the land with their blood, they owed Andraste's spiritual legacy nothing. And there's nothing wrong with them wanting to rebuild their culture without outside influence.
"The Chantry should’ve declared war sooner when the elves refused to aid Orlais during the blight or when the religion was banned as many real-world historical precedents would tell you, but it didn’t happen."
The Dales were founded sometime between -165 and -140 Ancient. That means they had quite some time to establish their own kingdom, before the Chantry ever became a thing. And with their background, it would make sense for the elves to put a lot of effort into building up their defenses.
By the time Drakon came along, I'm assuming they were already reasonably powerful. And don't forget that Drakon was friends with Ameridan (though how much of that was based on Ameridan pandering to his faith, we'll never know), which would have made them even less of a immediate target. Later, Orlais probably had to pour considerable ressources into fighting the Blight. And after that, well then they did turn on them.
"has the potential for so much good if it could only return to following the Word of Andraste and less political infighting for power like Vivienne and much of the grand clerics and revered mother’s."
I mean, they can try to go back to Andraste's teachings, if they can even be separated from later additions after so long, or to reform the Chantry based on current values (like Leliana is trying to do if you make her Divine). But the Chantry as it is now was too much shaped by its origin to consider its core good, especially since they really didn't make much effort over the centuries to distance themselves from their more distasteful aspects.
@HuckleBillyFenn I think you're confusing Andraste's teachings/the early Chant of Light with the Chantry, the religious organization as we know it. That was always associated with Orlais, since the empire and the Chantry were practically founded together by Kordilius Drakon, ca. two centuries after Andraste's lifetime. So I agree, the formation of the Chantry was pretty black and white, because it was imperialistic and bloody, used to justify conquering everything around them and brutally stamping out other Andrastian cults, as well as other faiths.
You could actually say the origins of the two are almost ironically opposed, as early Andrastianism began while fighting an empire, and the Chantry started during the creation of another.
@FlamesOfChaos13 They literally teach that non-humans are "further from the Maker", meaning second-rate. And Maferath functions as a less severe Eve figure, with men being "judged by the betrayal of Maferath and found too passionate to lead in matters of spirit". Both are denied access to the priesthood because of it. Sounds like a case of "one is superior to the other" to me. It may not be the worst case of racism or sexism ever, but it does qualify in my eyes.
I think any institution with a built-in directive to convert others is, at it's core, corrupt. And the Chantry and their "the Maker will return when the Chant is sung in all four corners of the world" certainly qualifies.
Now, you could argue that this could also be achieved peacefully (extremely unlikely, bordering on impossible), or that very few would have the power to actually push the issue. But my problem is that it's there at all, giving every asshole with the means the divine justification to go out and "convince" others to join.
Then there's also this delightful bit:
"The Chantry's interpretation of Andraste's teachings emphasizes death, guilt, and the difference among races and genders"
Similar to the conversion directive, I have a big problem with belief systems bent on guilt-tripping its followers, beating them into submission by telling them how sinful they are. And the racism and sexism is a bit of a problem, too.
Overall, the Chantry may do some good. But its core teachings are really problematic, and are at the very least in need of some serious reforms.
I think she loves Briala, but not more than her throne. So I guess I'll pick "Companion but replacable"
I collect everything, and sell most of what I can't use. Though with the introduction of storage I started to keep items with interesting names or backgrounds.
@Dwarftank I think Tranquility shouldn't exist or be used at all. Even setting my personal feelings on the ethics of mage lobotomy aside, Ameridan says it best: The potential for abuse is too great, both for the rite itself and of the tranquil state afterwards. The Chantry, Tevinter, even the Qunari and their qamek, they all either misuse it deliberately or fail horribly at providing a system to prevent individuals from doing so.
However, since the practice is likely not gonna vanish anytime soon within the setting, yes, I think its extremely important to continue researching the cure. Because then there's at least a chance that cases of misuse can be reversed. Likely not undone, since I doubt that a trauma like that is easy to get over, not to mention the brand stays forever. But made better.
True, as of now, the cure is not viable. In Inquisition we learn that a restored mage becomes an irrational mess, unable to control their emotions. Not only is that not "cured", mages in this state are likely much more dangerous than they ever were before. Cassandra mentions that more research is needed into the potential permanency of that state before she'll consider spreading the information, so as to not give false hope.