Which one is the stronger one between the two? My opinion goes to the dwarven warrior.
^i give the oghren fight to sten because sten is more disciplined. i think sigrun beats sten because of her speed and agility. oghren beats bull in my opinion because i thing with the berserker rage he can take more punishment(or at least just not care).
As for the height plus mass argument, it would stand to reason that the Qunari is slower. and im not talking hand to hand because it would be far too one-sided
What if Oghren fight Stens at his prime without being drunk?
I think the only disadvantage for the dwarves is about the matter of their height.
^^^Why would the qunari be slower? If anything they'd be faster, they have longer legs.
If you start bringing weapons and equipment in the equation, then it becomes a different question. The fact that you think hand-to-hand would be one sided proves my point. In just a straight up brawl with no weapons or armor, the qunari would obviously win.
Oh, and there's no way Sigrun could beat Iron Bull, Sten, or even Oghren. She's a squishy rogue. An Origins rogue sure, but still a rogue. In an one-on-one fight, any one of them could be beat her while drunk. Sten and Iron Bull could do it while drunk and with both hands tied behind their backs.
In a one-on-one fight, speed doesn't count for much, unless one person is like a thousand times faster than the other. Sigrun could beat any of them in a race, sure, even with her stubby dwarf legs. Or maybe in a kill count contest. Or a game of hide-and-go-seek. Or a trivia contest. There's lots of we should beat them. Just not in a straight up fight. And that's not because she's a dwarf, or even because she's a woman. It's because she's a rogue. Her skill set is not built for straight up fighting, unlike the others.
The qunari's longer legs might make them faster in a foot-race, but not necessarily in a brawl. If anything, the dwarven size might be an advantage since they have a much lower and smaller 'hit-box' than the larger qunari. Rogue Sigrun is not a good comparison with the likes of Sten or Oghren since they are warriors. A better female contestant might be Valta or someone like Hanashan. Finally, let's not forget that Oghren *is* at his prime when he's drunk. However, the original question is about strength, not skill. In that case, the award might have to go to Aveline. 😊
^Dwarves may have a smaller hit box, but the longer arms and legs of the qunari means that they have more reach. And even the average female qunari looks buff enough to lift up a dwarf with one arm.
It's true. Longer qunari arms and legs will be more useful for reaching cans on a high shelf. Meanwhile, dwarves don't have to duck through low door frames. Given the question is about strength, not about a brawl or weapon skills, Renn looked strong enough to easily lift any qunari with one hand (with the possible exception of the Iron Bull). Perhaps we should be considering how many cows or brontos they can lift.
All muscle isn't created equal. This is most evident in the difference in comparison to humans and animals. It can be evident when comparing a human to another human. Since Qunari and Dwarves have their own unique physiology. It is hard to come to an exact conclusion of who is stronger.
The Dwarves athletically, are the most impressive humanoid species in Thedas. If a human has dwarfism, their athletic potential is limited. For Dwarves in Thedas though, their short stature and short legs don't hinder their movement and strength in any way. They are also able to comfortably move in heavy ass armor as well. The game portrays that an average dwarf is stronger than an average human in Thedas. In a real world setting, an average human is stronger and more athletic than a human with dwarfism. This is why it is a mistake to conclude that a qunari is unquestionably stronger than a dwarf. The physiology of Dwarves breaks all the rules in a real world setting.
The qunari are naturally strong, huge and muscular. But, both their leaders of their military (Arishok and Sten) both lost in single combat to a human, (Hawke/Alistair.) For all their strength, it does them no good if their technique is lacking. Also, some humans are able to reach the size the of an qunari, i.e, Skywatcher. (I'm not wild about the Qunari's vanity dealing with their horns either. It would make it much more difficult for them to fight side by side with each other. They should cut their horns off.)
It is a mistake to judge someone's strength based on their body fat percentage. A lot of the Powerlifters and American football players have bellies or barely visible six pack abs.
Height isn't necessarily an advantage either. If the tall person's strength can't overwhelm their smaller opponent. They need to be exceedingly disciplined in their stance. Otherwise the tall person will get worked.
If the qunari have longer arms, that means that they don't have to move as far to grab the dwarves. And if they are strong enough to lift them with one arm, that means that they can easily toss them around or simply grab them and hold them down while they beat on them.
It's true that the question is not about who would win in a brawl, but in stands to reason that in a brawl with no weapons or armor, the stronger person is going to win. In order for speed or agility to be a factor, dwarves would have to be exponentially faster than qunari, which they are not. And in order for physical resilience to be a factor, they'd have to significantly tougher than qunari, which they are not. Therefore, in a one-on-one fight, the qunari's advantage in size and strength means that 9 times out of 10, they would win.
^The qunari are superhumanly strong as well. You're right that it's not obvious whose muscles actually provide more strength per pound. What is obvious is that the qunari have more muscle mass, by virtue of being more massive. In order for the dwarves to beat them in a contest of strength, their muscles would have to be several times more powerful. I don't think that's the case.
When does Sten fight Alistair? Anyway, that's hardly a fair example. Hawke and Alistair are exceptionally skilled humans. Sten and the Arishok are highly skilled qunari, but not to the same degree as Alistair and Hawke.
The qunari can use their horns as weapons. Why get rid of a natural defense? Also, most qunari horns do not get to the size of Iron Bull's or the Arishok's. They're typically much smaller.
Height is only a disadvantage if the taller person has no idea how to fight, and the smaller person is a highly trained fighter. Otherwise, a significant size difference is a significant advantage. The qunari all know how to fight. They would know how to use their size to their advantage. Once a qunari gets a hold of a dwarf, it's all over. They could lock them in place with one limb while beating on them with the other three, or simply gore them with their horns.
I know it seems to cool to think that the underdog dwarves might best the qunari by being super agile. But let's be real here. The qunari are not novice fighters, and dwarves are not superhumanly fast. All that agility won't count for squat once the qunari pins the dwarf down. Sometimes the underdog looses.
Once again, it is not about who beats who with armor-and-weapon, or in a brawl, or who is faster in a foot-race. The original question is simply about strength.
As combat is the constant reference, just because the qunari 'don't have to move as far' to grab a dwarf, doesn't mean the dwarf is either A) easy to grasp, or B) slow enough for it to happen. Being that much shorter than the qunari, the dwarf does not leave a great deal to grab other than head or shoulders. A qunari strike at the dwarven neck would have to be very lucky. Meanwhile, the dwarf could target anywhere between qunari knees to chest. However, both are agile enough to evade such attempts.
Dwarves are just as comfortable in their forms as the qunari. They move every bit as easily as the giants. Dwarven warriors would know just as much as any qunari warrior about 'how to use their size to their advantage', and the odd length of dwarven arms has been a previous topic. Either one could get lucky enough to lock the other down and whale away on them.
This isn't about some rosy-wishful-thinking about the underdog's prospects. A combative contest between a qunari and a dwarf who were equally trained would be quite a bit more interesting than simply 'tall-guy wins'. The original question is still which one is stronger - i.e. able to pick-up/carry more - which would also be an interesting competition.