Talk:Tyrdda Bright-Axe

Both this page and the Morrighan'nan page mistakenly list Tyrdda and Morrighan'nan as mother and daughter, and I'd like to clean that up, if there's no objection.

When the saga talks about a "child of Tyrdda's blood," I believe that means a distant descendant, not her actual child. Certainly the Morrighan'nan who was involved with the Battle of Red Falls wasn't Tyrdda's daughter - she lived in -355 Ancient, well over a thousand years after Tyrdda founded the Avvar in -1815 Ancient according to WOT.

I'd also like to correct the mentions of Aval'var. As I understand the saga, Aval'var is the name of Tyrdda's daughter, not her lover.

"Dead her tribe, unless a child could keep her line in warrior fashion. Aval'var, so named the lover, called 'our journey, yours and mine,'" - I read that as meaning the lover gave the child the name Aval'var, not that Aval'var was the lover's name. It doesn't make much sense to suddenly introduce the lover's name at this point in the saga, but it makes a lot of sense to name the new child.

And "Lover's whispers to obey, Hendir, dwarf-prince, friend in passion, babe produced to serve the line, the Avvar tribe, her name, our taking." - I read that as meaning they took the babe's name as their tribe name.

But I could see how it might be interpreted differently, so I don't necessarily want to list Aval'var as the name of Tyrdda's daughter on this page - but I'd like to remove the Aval'var = Tyrdda's lover interpretation, if no one objects. 2601:187:4000:C024:9D41:81ED:5B62:1B74 (talk) 23:04, November 20, 2017 (UTC)