Talk:Kieran

Confirmation
I've cleaned this up a bit and left it up since I assume it's true and made in good faith. Can anybody confirm this page to be accurate? I'm live in Britain so I won't get to play the game until the 21st... 20:48, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

I saw a vid. Yeah it would appear to be true. Same vid says wherr the warden is. -ACdeakial


 * Wonderful. Thank you! 21:00, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Possible fathers
Hi, just to say I'm not sure we should really be adding potential fathers. As well as being a huge spoiler, we don't generally add family additions which can occur through player choice (e.g., we don't put The Warden down as Anora's "Possible husband"). 21:09, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

That's fair enough, I have a lot to learn it seems haha --Knight Runner (talk) 21:13, November 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh, don't worry about it! The best way to learn is just by getting stuck in and giving things a go so thanks for your edits - we need as many editors as we can get with the amount of material that'll be coming out! I hope you'll stick around and keep contributing! 21:22, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Yeah.... Adding the possible fathers also complicates things because you would also have to add several possible relatives. (e.g Anora as half-sister for Loghain, Maric and Fiona as grandparents for Alistair, the numerous family members of the potential wardens etc.) It's a good idea just to keep the family members listed in the infobox to Flemeth and co.--Swampshade (talk) 21:53, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Existence
I'm don't have my copy of the game yet but I'm assuming he only exists if you insured Morrigan got pregnant in Orgins.... So shouldn't links to this page in other characters infoboxes be in parentheses?--Swampshade (talk) 21:57, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Non Dark Ritual Playthrough
I know it is possible for the Warden to father a child with Morrigan as part of their relationship and for the child to not possess Urthemiel's soul. Shouldn't we reflect this in the article? I know its checked in the Keep too. Unless the Kieran only exists if the dark ritual was performed and a different kid exists if they were conceived naturally. - 22:14, November 18, 2014 (UTC)


 * I was thinking of adding it but I've only seen Kieran in a video where he has the Old God soul. I honestly don't know whether he shows up "normal" or not, but I'd hold off until we have definite confirmation. 22:25, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

I'd assume the name remains the same regardless, Kieran doesn't sound special or influenced by the fact that he may have an old gods soul. And he is raised by Morrigan, so its a safe bet his character stays the same. But yeah, I agree, hold off on doing anything until we have confirmation. 23:03, November 18, 2014 (UTC)
 * Yeah the name's nothing special it's probably the same. Kieran is just the bastardized British version of the Irish name Ciarán which means Little Black Child. There many be some significance there considering he has an Archdemon's soul, it could refer to his dark hair or y'know maybe Bioware just liked the name yeah let's go with the last one.--Swampshade (talk) 23:24, November 18, 2014 (UTC)