User talk:King Cousland/Archive 6

Archived conversations May 10, 2014 - June 22, 2014

Deletion
Hello. I would like to find out if it is possible to delete my account on this wikia. (Lon Dubh (talk) 18:49, May 10, 2014 (UTC))

How to log out?
I'm new on the wikia, so I want to ask how can I log out?Andrzej.lewinski.351 (talk) 15:50, August 30, 2013 (UTC)

Please, Spare Iron Bull
I saw you marked Iron bull to deletion and I ask you, don't delete it and be patient enough to wait for new informations.78.9.151.207 (talk) 10:57, September 1, 2013 (UTC)

Double redirects in blogs
Hey KC! You have moved some blog posts which left some unwanted double redicts behind. As I do not have enough permission to do it myself, could you fix them? Thanks! 02:39, September 2, 2013 (UTC)
 * No problem. Thanks Viktoria. 17:21, September 2, 2013 (UTC)

vandal
Please, whoever of you gets here first, block this vandal http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/206.47.100.28 and delete his blog comments. Thank you. --Ygrain (talk) 13:36, September 4, 2013 (UTC)
 * Thanks Ygrain. 14:28, September 4, 2013 (UTC)

Hey King Cousland, as you no doubt noticed, we're getting a lot more hostile comments from unregistered users lately. Loleil and I would like to try to reverse this toxic trend by being stricter with anonymous users while continuing to be lenient with the registered ones. I put together a notice which detail the points above.

Moving forward, please exercise less caution when dealing with unregistered users. I'd like to hear your feedback, so let me know what you think. -- 20:47, October 9, 2013 (UTC)

3rd fraction
I and Victoria Landers discussed about GW's involvement in Darkspawn Civil War. We all know they are not allies of the Architect unless player decide to buy what he was selling in the very end of the conflict.

We both think conflicts like Darkspawn Civil War should have collum for the 3rd party, but that's impossible with current edition system. So we ask you for an update to make 3rd collums of the 3rd fraction in conflict infoboxes. This conflict is the only one we know with 3 fractions, Victoria thinks mage-templar war is also such kind of conflict, but not me, however Darkspawn Civil War is an unusual conflict.78.8.132.93 (talk) 12:27, October 18, 2013 (UTC)StubbornMageSlayer

Benevolent Spirit category
Demons are also spirits, but corrupted, so I think non-demons like Faith should have category Benevolent Spirit instead of simply Spirit.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 18:14, February 4, 2014 (UTC)
 * While I can certainly see your logic in this, I think it might be an overcomplication to split this particular category up in this way. If you feel strongly about it however, I'd encourage you to start a discussion on the category's talk page. 18:55, February 4, 2014 (UTC)

Strange expression error
Hello,

There is an intermittent problem with the approval template, I think. It is showing up mainly on the Morrigan/Approval page. The text that should show the approval change for various dialogue options shows as, for example, "Expression error: Unrecognised punctuation character "{"." -Sophia (talk) 15:16, February 5, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi, thanks for alerting me to this. The problem should be solved now, but if it persists for you clearing your cache may help. 15:43, February 5, 2014 (UTC)

Inquisitor will be Vashoth
Gaider has confirmed that the Qunair inquisitor will be Vashoth in this thread on the BSN.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/371/index/17843581

Seemed newsworthy to me but I'm not sure if you want a new news story every time a dev makes a post, so I figured I would just pass it along and defer to your judgment.--Wsowen02 (talk) 02:15, February 9, 2014 (UTC)

Dragon Age Keep question
I got a question regarding Dragon Age Keep that I am hoping you will be able to ask. Is it possible for normal players from the 360/PS3/PC to import saves WITHOUT the use of the Keep or are we forced to? --Supergodzilla118 18:04, March 27, 2014 (UTC)
 * Hi there. At this time, the only way to import saves into Inquisition is by using the Keep. 18:07, March 27, 2014 (UTC)

Untitled message #1
hey king i've got a small question when i access the forrum page : ( will varric ever give up bianca ? )i only see the question and nothing else witch is strange because i answered/edited it myself and when i click the publish button nada zip nothing ( but the question itself ) the only time i can see my edit and the other is when i click on the edit buton to load the editor i just wanted to know if it was a problem with my connection ( maybe it's my hardware fault for not being able to load properly )or if it was a problem with this site ?DragonInquisitor (talk) 13:33, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

the problem seem to have been tahen care of thank ! DragonInquisitor (talk) 00:50, April 2, 2014 (UTC)

Please help!
Hello! I was just wondering if it is acceptable to make a page about the voice over actors, such as Steve Valentine who is the voice of Alistair. I think it should be okay, but I wasn't sure if it is. Some people (such as myself) have enough curiosity to kill ten cats and I had to find him myself on Wikipedia. I think it would be easier if he could just have a page on here. Not just him of course, but all the main characters like Jo Wyatt and so on. Thanks! --Zurie Acadia (talk) 01:47, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

Semi protection request
Hey KC! I'd like to request semi-protection on Gilmore page. The page is unlikely to receive any substantial additions considering that the character probably died in Origins while on the other hand the page is still susceptible to receive incorrect information from anons (because of Ser Gilmore's third party mod). Thanks in advance! 05:31, April 8, 2014 (UTC)
 * This seems like a good idea. Thanks Vikki! 17:48, April 8, 2014 (UTC)

2 topics
You need to fix your page, your dwarven female commoner has elf pictutre instead of dwarf. I also inform that I decided to put golems into Slavery page, but that text needs to be polished.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 21:01, April 10, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for the heads up. 21:41, April 10, 2014 (UTC)

Please check credibility of this news http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Cullen_is_a_confirmed_Love_interest! FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 16:48, April 11, 2014 (UTC)

Possible Topic turning Ugly
I want to bring to your attention that the recent blood "Cassandra and Cullen confirmed as Love Interests" is about to turn ugly regarding the subject of player sexuality. Some defend it while others are against. I am neutral on the subject as I wish romance to be well developed and not rushed or forced. LI's being bi need to make sense as well and not just thrown in there. I don't mind them being bi, just not all of them.

I just thought I bring this to your attention. I know its just a few comments but I know how easily fights, especially on the internet, can turn ugly real fast. Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 21:19, April 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your concern. 11:29, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Report of Vandalism
I'd like to report vandalism. http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.203.32.143 added various categories to category warriors.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 13:31, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Here is the 2nd vadnal today http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Varric_Tethras?diff=567157&oldid=566234 FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 14:12, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

He just doesn't get when to make it stop http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/98.203.32.143 FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 14:33, April 13, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your concern. 14:49, April 13, 2014 (UTC)

Forum topic
Hey KC! As I have a good feeling that you're an ardent supporter of D&D games, I'd like to hear your opinion in Forum:Dungeon topic. See you around! 05:20, April 21, 2014 (UTC)

Pages for Deletion and Mergers
Hello! It looks like an agreement has been reached to delete the individual articles for obstacles during the main fade quest in Origins and merge the information into the main quest walkthrough. That's written up so we just need an admin to delete the left over pages. In order they are:


 * Fade Portal
 * Fire Barrier
 * Massive Door
 * Spirit Door

Also while we're on the subject of mergers, Symbol has been proposed for merger into Heraldry but the discussion doesn't seem to have been started or has been passed over by everyone.

There's a few other articles deletion has been agreed on for that need to be deleted also: Solace
 * Wanka
 * Profane abomination
 * Jar of Bees

There's also about a dozen unneeded re-directs which need to be deleted.


 * Caged In Stone
 * Anders (Companion)
 * Hafter (Dog)
 * Taliesin

If you could take care of those and delete them, it would be very much appreciated. Thank you. - 13:22, April 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * All gone. Thank you! 13:33, April 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Oh sorry I meant to tag Mouse Hole for merging for the same reason but I forgot to tag it.-HD3_Sig.png 13:36, April 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * No problem, consider it gone. 13:45, April 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you and thank you for responding so promptly.-HD3_Sig.png 13:48, April 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok this is the last time I'll do this to you I swear, but i went through the candidates for deletion and there are actually several more pages where deletion has been agreed on and just not implimented.


 * Companions
 * Companions (Dragon Age) (I can't get this one to link but it's there under the Candidates for Deletion category tag. It's a template page.
 * Dragon Age: The Calling characters
 * Dragon Age: The Calling creatures
 * Loot locations
 * Dragon Age: Origins - Awakening (comic) (merging) with Dragon Age (Penny Arcade comic) See talk page for details.

I think that's everything this time.- 14:01, April 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Done and done. Thanks for all your help (p.s., I think you meant to tag Template:Companions instead of Companions, so I went ahead and deleted the former instead of the page linked above). 14:19, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

No, no, thank you for deleting and merging them all. Some of those things had sat there for ages without anyone remembering to go back and finish them. Now it's all nice and cleaned up. Also I know I said last time was the last time, but i realized Casteless dwarves was meant to be moved to just Casteless like it's labeled in the Dwarves link table. Also Skill ID codes was up for a merge with Ability ID codes (Origins) I swear to the maker that's the last one.- 14:23, April 22, 2014 (UTC)


 * Done. 14:50, April 22, 2014 (UTC)

Page rename
Hey! Can you please rename Archon Thalsian to Thalsian? I can't do it because the destination page already exists. Cheers! 16:18, April 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Done, thank you. 17:40, April 23, 2014 (UTC)

Death threat on your blog
I'd like to report an uncivil behvoiur of JH EP on your recent blog http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/JH_EP FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 17:36, April 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for alerting me. 17:40, April 23, 2014 (UTC)

Blockade of DAI
I'd ask you to consider blocking edition of DAI, in their edits, some claim that Cullen is a companion or that Asunder character is Cole and that's a companion. Too many unknowns. We don't know many things and editors put their speculations not confirmed informations and they'll do it again. So I ask you to consider blocking the page of the upcoming game, so only the administators with access to reliable sources of informations could edit the page.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 19:53, April 23, 2014 (UTC)


 * I don't think the page warrants a lock in its current state. While there are a few instances of misinformation being added (which is to be expected), such edits are more often than not reverted very quickly. Given that new information is quickly emerging about the game, I'd be hesitant about making registered users or admins the only ones with the power to add this information. Thank you for your concern, however. 20:06, April 23, 2014 (UTC)

Quote Guidelines
Hey I left a message regarding the proposed quote guidelines. - 08:44, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

I just wanted to double check we're in agreement about the header being included in the number quotes on an article before I write up the final wording for the proposed guidelines? - 13:16, April 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, we certainly are  13:18, April 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok! I will start writing up the final wording for the actual guidelines themselves with the header counting as one of a page's quotes then. I'll put the final draft up for public comments once we've hammered out the rest on the discussion thread.-HD3_Sig.png 13:24, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Could you do me a favor?
I made a comment while braindead. Could you please delete it for me? Not a big deal, but it feels bad that I was stupid to not pay attention and I can't even get rid of it. Thanks in advance! -- 12:39, April 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * Of course, consider it done. 12:44, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

Grey Wardens
Drell has started a nice little edit war over on the Grey Wardens article. Since there is a certain degree of ambiguity regarding the so called "Grey Wardens" in the trailer, i thought it might be safer to remove the appearance listing just for the moment. True to form however, Drell has started an edit war instead of using the talk page. Not sure if it's worth locking it or not but i figured it should be mentioned if only to stop the back and forth.- 15:08, April 24, 2014 (UTC)
 * We saw a fortress of GW and the uniforms of GW. When we saw Cassandra and Varric we didn't think "They are impostors of Varric and Cassandra". When we see something in trailer, we don't consider if it's fake. In article was written "people wearing armors of GW" and is that enough to speculate they are impostors? Just because of few words? Should I think Cassandra is possessed by a demon, when threated the Inquisitor? So many speculate that on picture Inquisition members.png the elf with bow is Sera and that one in the left is Cullen and that the one in the right is a grey warden and that the one with daggers is Cole. They all speculate. It's hard to have 1st thought about someone in an uniform that it's an impostor.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 15:20, April 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree with Drell on this occasion, but I'd strongly encourage one of you to start a discussion about it on the talk page before making any more edits. The appearance also needs a reference, in any case. 17:12, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

Correcting symbols
On talk page of the Inquisition is discussion about spliting the page on 2. I suggested to put proper ticks. I'd like to ask if I can put the proper ticks instead of the ones, who voted to spare time?FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 17:13, April 24, 2014 (UTC)


 * Generally we shouldn't edit other users' posts, but I don't see a huge problem in this case, so long as you do it carefully and accurately. 17:16, April 24, 2014 (UTC)

Lord Seeker Lambert Image
Hey thanks for uploading the hi-res image, it looks nice and sharp. I'm just happy we finally got an image of Lambert without the text in the way. Looks much nicer.- 03:19, April 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * No problem at all. 12:44, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Image names
Hey! Is there a way to rename images uploaded to the wiki? There are a few that have been uploaded lately with just a random assortment of letters and numbers as the file name and it would be nice to rename them to something more identifiable. (such as ) --Kelcat (talk) 04:02, April 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yes, I noticed that too! I'll set to work reuploading them. 12:44, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Bad feelings
Please check on blog BioWare updates the Dragon Age website - interactive map of Thedas + confirmed specializations if 122.54.218.77 and VampireBlood03 aren't going to cross the line, because calling me illogical is an insult and the anon targets me from long. He said me to not convience anyone, when I wasn't trying to. Wishing me to be eaten by cannibals isn't very civil.

User blog comment:Henio0/BioWare updates the Dragon Age website - interactive map of Thedas + confirmed specializations/@comment--Algol--20140423182405/@comment-122.54.218.77-20140425041257

FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 04:26, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

I'd also like to report that on Ezzyd's page appeared a death threat written by VampireBlood03 http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/User_talk:EzzyD?diff=572137&oldid=531442 FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 04:28, April 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you for alerting me to the death threat, but the first comment certainly doesn't warrant action. Disputes such as these should be resolved between users without admin intervention. 13:03, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Drell is now reporting on duty.122.54.218.77 (talk) 04:30, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

It's true, I confess!!!! I throw myself on your abundant mercy and confess my crimes! I think Drell is treated the way he is because he's insulted and been rude to so many people in the past and present and that all of his opinions don't make a great deal of sense because the logic underneath them is far from sound! I think EzzyD saying personal attacks on the staff at Bioware is justified is kind of mean and unnecessary!! I even put it in my own profile page, "I'M THE BIGGEST ASSHOLE YOU'LL FIND"!!! I'M A MONSTER!!!!!!!!

P.S If you check the log, ya'll see I didn't actually write the death threat on Ezzy's page so much as laugh because he supported death threats against people he disagrees with in the past. Good to know Drell will go fishing for evidence to try and get people who disagree with him banned though.

-VampireBlood03 (talk) 04:53, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Account hacked
On three of the forums on this wiki my account is 'shown' to wrote some comments on while I had no knownlegde of it. When I check each of the comments while offense per say, just the idea someone were on my account makes me a little worry.

The forums are Uggggh...Gaider.[] Comment - “Yeah let it die! and why are people wasting their time attacking the developers?? I thought we were here to discuss the games.-VampireBlood03 (talk) 03:54, April 25, 2014 (UTC)”

Does bioware know about this wiki[] Comment - “Yeah the BSN is a NIGHTMARE!!!!! Those people are psychopaths! I don't know what kind of nice feedback you think theyre getting from those whackos.-VampireBlood03 (talk) 03:52, April 25, 2014 (UTC)”

Proposing changes to quotes guidelines[] Comment - “I think 4 and 8 is plenty.-VampireBlood03 (talk) 03:51, April 25, 2014 (UTC)”

I just change my password when I saw my name in Forums Box, while i said the comments weren't truly offense, the first 2 form the looks themselves could be consider something, I have no idea what any of these forums were about. If possible can you give me some adivce about this? Thank you for your time.VampireBlood03 (talk) 05:58, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Apparent Vandalism
Anonymous user: 79.103.35.81 is just deleting big sections of this article and leaving nothing there in an apparent act of vandalism. The Exiled Prince - 13:58, April 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for alerting me. 17:19, April 25, 2014 (UTC)

Hello KC! big fan as you know ive been trying to help more but i am still learning how can i change that little problem you asked i should probly just let you pros handle all of this haha

Drell Spectre and the talk page
Could you please speak to Drell about exactly how the talk page is intended to be used. They keep starting a discussion topic proposing a major change and then just making the change regardless of the content and consensus of the discussion. Hell the latest incident of this, Drell didn't even wait for anyone else to comment and just made the change immediately. I've discussed the problems this can cause with them several times but they're obviously not listening. Maybe it'll mean more coming from you. - 02:12, April 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * I made a forum topic about that and I counted votes, most were for yes. 3 days passes since I put that forum topi and you call that non-waiting. I waited 3 days with most votes for yes.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 06:15, April 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * I believe the standard is generally a week, so yes I consider that "non-waiting". You also understand it's not a 51% election system right? What you're proposing is a massive change which would affect more than a hundred different articles. Not to mention the problem that, as was discussed it would look pretty stupid if it was doled out in installments rather than the comments for every article uploaded at once. Then there's the myriad of associated issues you didn't even bother to discuss: How many party comments per page? Should one be included in the header? Are these comments sufficiently noteworthy to be worth putting on the page? Also, to be blunt, I have certain reservations that if it were implemented, the project would ever come even close to completion.-HD3_Sig.png 06:29, April 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * I was also referring to the change you proposed to the Second Qunari Invasion of Kirkwall. You put a change up for discussion, then immediately went and did it anyway, without waiting for a single person to reply to the topic first. That's not reaching a consensus that's just you pushing changes through and pretending you put it up for discussion. Hell it was a good idea, I was going to vote for it but you just did it anyway. I don't know why you even bothered to put it up for discussion in the first place. Neither of these cases is the first instance of you acting like this either.-HD3_Sig.png 06:38, April 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * I commented that it was for taking attention of everyone, because nobody responded on my suggestion. I waited but nobody show any sign of interest in this. After so many edits of other things, I suggestion was fading on page of wiki activity, I needed something spectacular to get everyone interested. You need to do something more, when nobody listens to you. You even didn't read a comment why I did it.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 06:49, April 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hang on a second, you waited a grand total of 3 hours after posting your proposal before you made the change. That is not nearly enough time to make the claim that there wasn't any interest. I'm pretty sure making an edit comment stating you're doing it to get people to "pay attention" isn't a replacement for following established wiki guidelines. This should be a community where we all work together, not one person doing as they please. --Kelcat (talk) 07:01, April 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * I read it actually and I agreed with it, that's why I was going to vote in favour of it. Also you can't say nobody showed any interest, two users included myself noticed. Things don't work instantly around here Drell, people have lives. Two users responded to your topic in less than 12 hours. Also as for "nobody listening to me", quite frankly I resent your attempt to assassinate my character in public. I've tried to discuss these issues with you personally multiple times but you just ignore me, so I don't know what you expect to happen. -HD3_Sig.png 07:03, April 26, 2014 (UTC)
 * Then next time I'll be more patient.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 07:09, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

It seems you've worked this out among yourselves, but HD3 and Kelcat are correct here - changes should not be implemented without discussion and you should wait at least 7 days after a vote to implement changes. 14:30, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

DAI Spoiler
I think it's time to consider an appearance of spoiler tag of DAI. Face in helmet from that picture would be the most suitable.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 14:01, April 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * I messaged D-day about this a few days ago, so I expect we'll have one in due course. 14:30, April 26, 2014 (UTC)

Image Display Problem
Hey did Wikia say they fixed the issue with images not displaying properly? I'm still seeing zoomed in thumb nails and pixelated images. - 15:22, April 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * I contacted Wikia staff about this a few days ago. The root cause of the issue has been fixed and images have begun to correct themselves, but it'll take some time before they all return to normal. 15:37, April 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * I see. Thanks for taking care of that then.-HD3_Sig.png 15:47, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

Image deletion
Hi! Could I ask you a favor and please delete ? It is fanart that can be seen here on deviantart. The artist has had several problems with theft and as a result does not want her artwork to appear anywhere without her permission. I think it best we honor that, especially since it can't actually be used on any of the articles (it's copyrighted and therefore not free use). Thank you! --Kelcat (talk) 19:30, April 27, 2014 (UTC)


 * Of course, thanks for alerting me to this. 19:46, April 27, 2014 (UTC)

Vandalism
Some vandal's making nonsense articles with nothing in them. See Goshinop. IP address is 178.201.111.22 - 13:44, April 28, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks! 15:52, April 28, 2014 (UTC)

Quote Guidelines
Sorry to bother you, but I was wondering, do you think enough time has passed now that we can put the quote guidelines into action? - 16:10, April 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * The last vote was cast 9 days ago and there seems to be a consensus in the discussion section so I'd say yes, we can go ahead. And there's really no need to apologise, it's what I'm here for  16:22, April 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok, should I just post the final text here then and you can create the article? Or should I just go ahead and write the article "Dragon Age Wiki:Quote guidelines"I guess. I don't know if you need admin privileges to add new articles to the policies and guidelines section. It will need to be added to the policy template quick guide menu thingy too. Which I also don't know how to do admittedly. -HD3_Sig.png 05:15, April 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * We do already have QUOTE, as well as CHARACTER. Might it be easier to expand one or both of those than creating a whole separate article? Kelcat (talk) 07:07, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

− 		 −
 * Agreed. Although now I am uncertain how to split the new guidelines between the two sections. I can see some stuff that would be relevant to both sections. Particularly the notability stuff. Is it allright then if I post what should be noted for both section in both sections?-HD3_Sig.png 07:52, April 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * Actually, it looks like DA:QUOTE wouldn't need to be edited at all, as the new guidelines don't affect what articles can have quotes or where on the articles the quotes should be placed. --Kelcat (talk) 23:33, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Spam Thread
There is a Spam Thread about money making in the forums. http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Money_Making_Guide;_Spreadsheet_that_might_help...?t=20140429232255

Thought you want to check it out and close it. Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 00:08, April 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * It looks to me like someone wanting to add info they've collected onto the Money Making Guide article. I'll leave it up to KCousland about whether it deserves to be deleted, but it could be a useful resource. Kelcat (talk) 07:14, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

− 		 − 	Did not know about the money making article. I thought it was one of those spam threads that try to trick you to click links that lead to viruses. My mistake if it ends up being saved. Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 09:03, April 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yeah, I don't think the post was malicious. 14:46, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

My mistake then. Just didn't want to be to sure and risk it. Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 15:51, April 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * No problem at all. Better safe than sorry  16:05, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

Reporting insult
I'd like to report that 112.200.8.8 insulted me only because I don't like magic and I didn't inslut him on that forum Here is the evidence []. He has no right to call anyone dumb, I don't call people dumb and I expect the same from others. That's not the 1st time 112.200 attacks me, he constantly targets me.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 05:36, April 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * Curious that your "evidence" contains someone else calling that anon dumb regarding one subject yet you only report said anon for saying you were dumb about the same subject. I guess offensive behavior is only worth reporting if it is aimed at someone you disagree with eh? This is exactly the kind of hypocrisy and lack of self awareness which has made you almost universally disliked by the entire wiki. -120.149.113.197 (talk) 06:44, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Calling dumb is an isnsult, I don't call anyone dumb. I don't call anyone dumb, I don't insult anyone, that's no hipocrisy and there is no need for your involvement in none of your business. I wasn't talking to you, but to King Cousland. That anon insulted me and has to face consequences of his agression.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 06:55, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * You know what Drell if you are hurt on being called dumb then you are one. Also no one in this wiki is reporting you of your annoying complain on cliches. 112.200.8.8 (talk) 10:15, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * Everyone who is called dumb feel hurt. But you're not worth talking, you're just a an anon lacking idea for own nickname, who doesn't edit wikia but annoys.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 20:00, April 30, 2014 (UTC)

This doesn't warrant admin intervention. This is a minor dispute and should be resolved on your own talk pages. 14:46, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * I won't to those anons, who constantly insult me, they are worth of anyone's atention. If you haven't detected, 112 called me dumb on your own page, he admitted he's a rude and uncivil wikia contributor, who can't stay silent and enjoys annoying me.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 20:00, April 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * Then please don't engage them at all. Reporting everything you find offensive is not productive and only serves to create more ill-will among users. Disputes such as these should be resolved between individual users on their own talk pages, only major cases of incivility which are a clear breach of our guidelines should be reported to admins. The fact that you also referred to the anon as a "jerk" and then quickly edited your post does not help your case. 20:10, April 30, 2014 (UTC)
 * I was frustreted by fact he was unpunished for insulting me. That was his plan to provoke me to do something like this. He wanted to gain another argument against me. But it's hard to call him differently after he insults and targets me for so long. I tried to not call anyone badly, but he broke me. Be aware if he responds on that message, I'll delete his text, because I had enough of him and his unpunished insults towards me. Still I'll try to ignore him. By the way your advise would lead to another senseless argument, because that anon get stubborn to target and isnult me. He wants me to leave the wikia by taking me pleasure of visiting it. I ignored him for few days but I couldn't ignore him any more. I simply want him to not talk to me, but he talks no matter what "Drell this" "Drell that" "Drell is...". I had enough of him.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 20:55, April 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * Drell stop complaining, this is life, are you going to report everyone that says something that you don't like? Please do something more preductive instead of being a mindless goul making their life's miserable. 91.195.182.240 (talk) 07:44, May 1, 2014 (UTC)
 * Anonther anon who gets nothing at all. He insulted me and he is the one making my life miserable. You advise me to do soemthing productive, but no example at all. Nothing productive helps with anons, who insult me.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 08:38, May 1, 2014 (UTC)


 * Stop making King Cousland's life miserable. You do realise that he may have other things to do, other than complaining. 91.195.182.240 (talk) 11:34, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

It seems we've reached an impasse her. Since users appear determined not to get along with one another, I can only suggest you avoid interacting at all. Don't restrict your use of the wiki, certainly, but make a conscious effort not to provoke each other. Minor insults are not worth reporting, but users will be penalised if they are seen to provoke others. This applies to all users. 18:51, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Quotes Final Wording
Hey, I've written up the draft of the final wording for the quotation guidelines. Let me know if you can see anything you think should be added otherwise I'll add them to the guidelines now.

Quotation Guidelines Final Wording Draft:


 * Each quote should demonstrate something notable about the character's personality or beliefs.


 * Each quote should demonstrate something unique which the other quotes do not.


 * The maximum number of quotes allowed for an NPC character is 4 and the maximum number of quotes allowed for a Companion is 8. For each additional appearance an additional 2 quotes may be added from that appearance. Temporary companions are considered to be NPCs.


 * If a character only has one notable quote, that quote should be put in as a header quote.


 * Header quotes are counted amongst the total number of quotes on a page.


 * Header quotes should not be repeated in the quotation section of the same article.


 * Quotes should generally be no longer than one or two sentences long.


 * Try to avoid dialogue exchanges. At most a character should have one dialogue exchange on their article.


 * Dialogue exchanges are included amongst the number of quotations.


 * Keep spoilers out of quotations. Quotes are intended to reflect the character not their reaction to major plot twists.

- 04:09, May 1, 2014 (UTC)

Untitled message #2
hello king i'm a new member of this wiki ( who access this wikia site with his 360 console ) and i dont know how to alter article but though i should let you know that last time i play d.a.o. ( then i was a male dalish rogue archer ! i know it's cliché but what can i say ) i arange my game so that i could purchased the "far song" longbow but before i did that i consulted this site far song article and i saw that the price listed was 100 gold and when i finaly did buy the bow the price the the "new blacksmith" demanded was 120 gold i dont know if this is due to one of the latest update or something else but i though that maybe you could correct the information ( or at least add below the current price that on xbox 360 it cost 20 gold more )thank you DragonInquisitor (talk) 16:37, May 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi, thanks for the heads up. It seems that this was noted on Far Song's talk page in regard to the PS3 version, so this seems like sufficient confirmation. 18:03, May 2, 2014 (UTC)

Redlink
Hey, King Cousland! I know that the Skill ID Codes page was deleted when it was merged with the Ability ID page, but it's still showing up in the Console transformer box as a redlink (See: Console (Origins)). Not sure how to edit it out. --Kelcat (talk) 23:39, May 2, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for the heads up! 11:08, May 3, 2014 (UTC)

Complaints
King Cousland, there are several concerns with First Drell Spectre regarding his recent actions. As well as actions of the past. I have been hearing people complain about him on the chat a lot. Every time it is active that I am there he gets at least one rant. I am reporting him because I've heard enough of everyone saying he's done this, or he's done that. It's getting irritating to me that the grievances he causes are a repeated topic in the chat. One of my personal grievances was when I added Trolls to the page on Dragon Age: Inquisition he posted on my talk page (feel free to check), and PM'd me several times, about how I didn't source my information. I remembered doing so, but I was skeptical since it was my first wiki edit. So I checked and saw that I did in fact source my information. Up until now I haven't done many wiki edits, even if it was more accurate or better information, etc. because I didn't want to get bothered about not sourcing the information when I did. During the in between time of checking the game's page and finding out he accused me of not sourcing the edit, I was in a (minor) panic. It was my first wiki edit and I already screwed up royally. It was stress that was not needed on that day, trust me. Anyway, I just thought I would bring this to your attention. Feel free to ask around the wiki for complaints about Drell. Jaeha, Lazare326, Margerard, and others that frequent the chat, will have an opinion. Dabuddah (talk) 19:47, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

I get what Dabuddah's talking about here, it's pretty annoying now. Drell and I were getting along, but there are so many complaints, especially in regards to people's opinions, they're degraded, and Jaeha has been falsely accused of being an anon 120 or something, you can ask Marge and Jaeha himself. He's openly rejected every one of my opinions, and although this is not a matter of a complaint, it's weird as our opinions seem like they don't matter to him. He's been constantly reporting others for disagreeing with him, that should be sorted out. . Other than that i started to get along with him. I just want him to change. Margeraard has witnessed this himself, and he's openly critiquing people's grammar. I'm sure other anon's and users have complaints. Drell if you see this, remember this is for your own good. Drell, i see you are changing, hopefully you will do more!Lazare326 (talk) 19:53, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Serious complaint now, he just told me to kill myself. Ask Marge, Laz, Iso.

Dabuddah But I'd rather die free in chaos 4:25 Isolationistmagi Order is imaginary as far as I'm concerned 4:25 Dabuddah Than live in slavery with "order" 4:25 Lazare326 i asked you, aren't the drell highly religious? 4:25 FirstDrellSpectre Then take your own life 4:25 Dabuddah The only reason order works is because people put the power into someeone

That's a line he crossed. Dabuddah (talk) 20:34, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

Dabuddah didn't get joke. He doesn't liek order I don't like chaos. May King Cousland blocks me and all is done.FirstDrellSpectre (talk) 20:53, May 4, 2014 (UTC)

My own personal complaint about Drell is how hypocritical is he regarding the Mages and Templars. he hates how Templars are regarded as evil when not all of them are (which I kind of agree with) but views magic in general as evil. He doesn't like it when others view Templars as evil, which I respect, but what I don't like is how he does the same thing against Magic in general. Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 21:57, May 4, 2014 (UTC)


 * Just two cents from an outsider of these seemingly endless arguments. For the sanity of this Wiki could the lot of you to stop your bloody bickering. It's really not difficult: just don't talk to each other, then you've got no problem. Sheesh. Alexsau1991 (talk page) 00:04, May 5, 2014 (UTC)


 * Drell has also publicly belittled me during the course of discussions regarding edits as well and harassed me in the chat as well. Not to mention they have been banned multiple times already for insulting users and other offenses. -HD3_Sig.png 02:13, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Apologies for my late reply everybody. Much as I'd encourage you all to take Alexau1991's good advice, t's becoming increasingly clear that users can't avoid conflict on the forums. While I don't want to go into who's responsible for this, Drell's provocations culminating in him encouraging suicide is utterly unacceptable. He has been banned, though if/when he returns, I'd encourage you all to avoid interacting with him. If theses arguments are repeated, bans will again be handed out with increasing severity. 09:38, May 5, 2014 (UTC)

Ban evasion
Hello KC! I am not sure how effective the ban on FirstDrellSpectre was, since he is still around, as an anon now. 16:13, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Edit warring
user 80.111.185.234 is currently edit warring on two different articles: Solas and Dalish. In both articles they’re repeatedly adding irrelevant trivia about Irish things and ignoring that others have stated the information should not be there. You can see on the user’s history that they have made ‘’several’’ changes to these two pages in the last 24 hours, all of them regarding the same bits of information. I tried opening up a dialogue on the Dalish talk page and was told that it would “only be posted again” if deleted. Henio0 tried opening a dialogue on Solas’ talk page, and the user stated they will be adding the information “again and again”, so people should just stop trying to remove it. It’s worth pointing out that they acknowledge that they are familiar with the trivia guidelines, and do not care if other people disagree with their opinion. This is totally counter-productive and I’d argue that at this point it counts as vandalism as the editor keeps re-adding it and blatantly stated that they will continue to add the information over and over. Kelcat (talk) 19:52, May 7, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for alerting me and my apologies for the somewhat late response. The anon seems to have cooled down now, but I've left a message on their talk page and will be keeping an eye on them in the future. Thanks again. 23:38, May 7, 2014 (UTC)

Potential E3 Questions
Hey there King Cousland!

My name’s Mike and I’m with Wikia’s gaming ComDev team. Just wanted to say hi and ask you a quick question about E3. As you might know, E3 is one of the biggest game conventions of the year, and it’s right around the corner. We may have the opportunity ahead of the show to interview some folks from EA/Bioware, and would love to ask them any questions about Dragon Age: Inquisition that you or the other admins may have.

Here’s an example of a community interview we’ve done before: http://xcom.wikia.com/wiki/File:Expert_Showcase_Special_Edition_-_XCOM_Enemy_Within

We really like letting Wikia communities ask the questions, because they’re very knowledgeable about their game of choice, and ask extremely in-depth questions that regular news outlets don’t.

If this sounds like something you’d be interested in doing, feel free to submit any questions you have here, or directly to me at mgrimm@wikia-inc.com Hope to hear back from you soon, and thanks again for all your edits & contributions to the Dragon Age Wiki!

Michael (profile)•(talk)•(email) 23:55, May 8, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hi there Mike, thanks for contacting me about this, it seems like a really cool initiative. I'm not sure I have any absolutely burning questions myself, so (with your permission) I was thinking of letting the community here submit some questions on a blog and then I'll choose 3 favourites? 13:23, May 9, 2014 (UTC)

Untitled message #3
Hello. Is it possible to delete my account? (Lon Dubh (talk) 18:43, May 10, 2014 (UTC))

Bad language complaint
Hey, Im not the one to complain a lot but under the forum http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Will_the_player/Inquisitor_be_forced_to_be_an_Andrastian%3F this anon: http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/118.211.178.150 calls Ezzy a "Cunt" which is pretty abysmal. I'd ask you to check it out; this is unnecessary.Lazare326 (talk) 10:02, May 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * For a brief moment of Devil's advocacy on the anon's part, while it's hardly an excuse, Ez's attempts to flamebait the original poster were obvious, and this wouldn't be the first time either. ---- Isolationistmagi   18:38, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

E-mail
I tried to message you in e-mail on the wiki since I'd like to ask about something privately, but it said e-mail is disabled and I cannot message users. I've messaged D-day like that before and it worked just fine. What might be the problem? I checked my preferences and everything seems in order. Anyway, it's not that urgent, but I'm just interested in your input about something, it'd be still nice if this was working though. -- 10:17, May 11, 2014 (UTC)

Quick Technical Query
Sorry to be a bother, but do you know if there is a way to stop the video links from appearing on the dashboard while using the wiki?- 10:04, May 12, 2014 (UTC)


 * Not a bother in the slightest - unfortunately this seems to be part of a new wikia-wide layout. I'm not really keen on it either.

Comments
Hey KC. In a moment of hubris i deviated from my usual safe policy of ignoring the comments and forums sections entirely and strangely felt the need to make a comment stating the bleedin' obvious for no good reason. If possible, could you please delete this. It's the most recent (and only) comment I made on the inquisitor's edition. - 15:54, May 18, 2014 (UTC)

hello king i'm writing this to you to ask if it is possible to implemant stronger rules ( or maybe enforce them more rigorously ) about the forum pages because i'm starting to get seriously annoyed by some peoples propensity at going to war with one another and completly diregarding the orginal subject of the post ( i'm not sure since i'm very new to chatting and forrum posting but i think it's called trolling and such behavior if allowed at all should be left to the chat room not the forrum page )dont missread me i love a good ( constructive ) debate when both side have valuable argument to share, but mostly when they do so in respect of each other because when they start calling each others names ( and just generaly insulting one another and others peoples ) that's just become very tiresome and plain old annoying very quickly /lastly i'm loath to point out finger but the need for this message came after i read the flame war between kaspar and the anonimous poster ( very last thing forgive me for my poor english i'm originaly french and i kind of "learned" english on my own ) DragonInquisitor (talk) 15:37, May 20, 2014 (UTC)

Sock puppet
Hey, kingcousland! Pretty sure ip 78.9.7.82 is a sock puppet of firstdrellspectre. Judging by this talk page comment. Same writing style, contesting the same edit that firstdrellspectre and one of his blocked sock puppets made, same part of the country (Poland) that that user is from. There are other ip's I suspect are also socks. Kelcat (talk) 06:10, May 21, 2014 (UTC)
 * Thanks for catching that Kelcat. Given the strong evidence, I've gone ahead and blocked that IP. 06:19, May 21, 2014 (UTC)

Inquisition Spoiler
I know this has been discussed already but I think we should look into rolling this out as soon as possible. I mean there's already stuff coming out that could be construed as spoilers. Like the stuff about the Orlesian Civil War reaching peace talks. That should definitely be covered by a spoiler tag but we don't have one for inquisition yet. We can change the image on it later if that is holding it up. Personally I think the helm image we've got on the temporary template could work or maybe the hands with the rings or the sigil of the Inquisition with the red eye/sword. It probably wouldn't hurt to put the inquisition spoiler out quite shortly is all I am trying to convey.- 07:42, May 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * I agree. I have to confess that I don't think my skills would extend to making one myself, but I see you've contacted Loleil about this so I'm sure she'll be able to sort it out in due course. Thanks for your concern as always. 12:16, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

I hope so. Thank you for your prompt reply KC, sorry to bother you. I'm sure you've got real stuff to deal what with the crazy forums etc etc etc. - 15:01, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Strange Article
Hey KC, sorry to disturb, but this: http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Frankmarian.frankmarian/YES  just came up on the wiki, and I think it counts as spam of some nature, and just thought I'd let you know directly. Cheers EzzyD (talk) 08:46, May 25, 2014 (UTC)


 * Absolutely. Thanks Ezzy. 12:16, May 25, 2014 (UTC)

Two minor blog tweaks
Hey KC! I contacted a user to fix two minor issues in his blog post however I think he cannot understand what I'm asking. Can you please do it yourself? It won't take more than 30 seconds I guess. 06:39, May 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Done. Apologies for my late response, Vikki. 18:25, May 26, 2014 (UTC)


 * Hey Vik, I had understood you, but I myself being a relatively new contributor to such things am still getting used to the whole thing, despite the triviality of such things. In the future i'll make sure to promptly fix such things the derive from my own misgivings. I think i had fixed one of them, but being relatively busy, I kept overlooking it unfortunately. Sorry for such troubles anyways. 22:19, May 26, 2014 (UTC)

Two more
Hello, I've got two more. Won't take more than 30 seconds, like before: 20:14, June 12, 2014 (UTC)
 * User blog:Lazare326/Dragon Age: Inquisition - Dwarven Inquisitor gameplay: "dwarven" to link to "Dwarf" page.
 * User blog:Lazare326/New Companion: Blackwall: "Grey Warden" to link to "Grey Wardens" page.

Another
Hey sorry for bothering you again: 10:40, June 22, 2014 (UTC)
 * User blog:Lazare326/New Information on Varric.: "dwarven" to link to "Dwarf" page.

Suspected New Sock Puppet
Hey KC. I think Drell has a new sock puppet at IP 78.8.7.101. Same writing style, same part of Poland, same language style and Drell's signature style of making decisions unilaterally then bringing the discussion up on a talk page.[]- 15:50, May 28, 2014 (UTC)


 * Looks like Loleil beat me to it. Thanks anyway HD3. 21:40, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Articles for Deletion
Hey KC. I just wanted to let you know there are a couple of articles which the discussion over deletion has lapsed for in favour of deletion.


 * Rock wraith abomination
 * Unification of Ferelden & i's associated redirect page at Unification of Alamarri
 * De Chalons family

While we're on the subject, Kelcat and I were discussing it might be worth considering establishing a minimal notability guideline for family pages. Especially given all the nobles in Orlais. We weren't sure if the forums would be the best place to discuss it given they're all bogged down in DA:I stuff in the lead up to the release. Just thought I'd run it by you. - 10:21, May 29, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thank you! I don't think there's quite enough of a consensus on the bottom two articles but I've added my two cents on both of those. I've also created a forum about yours and Kelcat's suggestion. 11:45, May 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * Fair enough, we can extend the discussion if you think it's merited. I should mention for Unification, the deletion discussion was reopened at the bottom of the talk page just in case you missed it.

- 14:39, May 31, 2014 (UTC)


 * Ok well it's been about a week now and the only contribution to the discussion for De chalons family has been two more people voting in favour of deletion so I'd argue that at least warrants deletion.-HD3_Sig.png 13:32, June 6, 2014 (UTC)


 * Yep, fair enough. It's gone. 16:11, June 6, 2014 (UTC)

Derailed Forum
Hey KC, I hope you are well. I have a favour to ask, if it's not too much trouble. The forum http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Ugly_romance_options...?t=20140530015054 appears to be getting derailed for the purpose of vilifying me for one relatively innocuous comment. While I'm willing to take some blame with how it was worded, I don't feel that I'm wrong, and would appreciate if some order returned to the thread. Would you be able to help with that? I'd be very grateful. Cheers. EzzyD (talk) 04:02, May 30, 2014 (UTC)


 * Thanks for alerting me Ezzy. 11:45, May 30, 2014 (UTC)

E3 2014 Banner on Gamepage
Hey there King Cousland

My name is Doug and I'm a member of Wikia's Community Development Team! E3 2014 is next week and we'll be providing a wide variety of exciting coverage of the event! We are also looking to help promote a lot of the great work that the Dragon Age community creates and showcases during that time.

I am stopping by to ask for permission to embed this E3 2014 Pencil Banner on the top (or bottom) of the Dragon Age: Inquistion page on your wiki. This will link back to our E3 Portal on the Games Hub, where we will be posting a wide variety of newly released info and media. Any content added by your community can also be showcased on this page! We wish to get as many eyes on your community and the hub as possible during the event.

The banner will only need to be in place for next week, after which it can be removed. if I have your permission to proceed and embed, please let me know! Thanks so much and have a great one. TheBlueRogue •(profile)•(talk)•(doug@wikia-inc.com) 19:01, June 4, 2014 (UTC)

Inquisition Nominated for Best in Show at E3
Hey there King Coulsand, It's Doug from Wikia's Community Development Team. I'm stopping by to let you know that Dragon Age: Inquisition has been selected as one of the best games shown at E3 2014! We're hosting a big poll over at our E3 Portal and are calling for the community to vote for their favorite E3 game! The game with the most votes wins the title of Best in Show 2014.

I have added a nomination banner on the top right-rail of the mainpage that links to the poll. Feel free to remove the banner if you would not like it there. I will also be posting a blog announcing the nomination to get community attention soon. Thanks so much! TheBlueRogue •(profile)•(talk)•(doug@wikia-inc.com) 04:41, June 11, 2014 (UTC)

Is this okay?
Hey there. I'm all for the idea of "everyone's entitled to their opinion", but I'd like to ask if is okay? Sorry if I overreact, just wondering. -- 06:42, June 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * Was coming here to report this exact issue. I definitely don't think you're overreacting, Margerard, especially given the user's follow-up comment. --Kelcat (talk) 06:49, June 11, 2014 (UTC)


 * No, you most definitely weren't overreacting, Margerard. Thanks for alerting me to the comments, we've had trouble with this user's posts before, so he's been banned for three months. 12:49, June 11, 2014 (UTC)

Regarding the Love Interest Category/Section
Hi there King Cousland, just saw you adding in the new Love Interest category and sections and I got an idea to expand that. I already posted it on the talk page of Love Interest and want your opinion on it. http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Category_talk:Love_interests#List_the_Love_Interests_on_The_Waden.2FHawke.2FInquisitor_pages

Thank you if you take your time to look at it. Supergodzilla118 (talk) Supergodzilla118 13:41, June 11, 2014 (UTC)

Untitled message #4
You might want to adjust the countdown, because Last Flight's release date has been pushed back:

http://www.amazon.com/Dragon-Age-Flight-Liane-Merciel/dp/0765337215/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1402583860&sr=8-3&keywords=last+flight

-Ericander77


 * Thank you. 15:10, June 12, 2014 (UTC)

Iron Bull
Hey KC, just wanted to ask you if it's necessary to put "The Iron Bull's voice actor, Freddie Prinze Jr., describes his character as acting like the "James Bond of the Qunari", and also having an Alpha male attitude." in the trivia of Bull, as I personally thought it was rather unnecessary as Freddie probably meant it as a humorous remark, and the one about ronin in my opinion made more sense in regards to his personality and characterisation.

Regardless of which, just wanted to ask, thanks. 11:13, June 22, 2014 (UTC)