User talk:Polexian/A1

re: items subcategory
They are there; click the 'next 200' link and it will scroll through the list. Admittedly, it is a little unwieldy, but it works. - Pwr905 15:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)
 * As it is a pretty public change that is immediately visible to everyone, I tend to defer to others. In this case, I would try Loleil or  Snfonseka. - Pwr905 16:28, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Equipment Versus Inventory
I can implement the changes you have requested but currently we have a category named as "Equipment". But we don't have "Inventory" category. So when I change the "Equipment" to "Inventory" there won't be any proper link to the corresponding category. So I think we need to implement "Inventory" category as well.... or do you wish to change only the name of "Equipment" to "Inventory" (Keeping the link to "Equipment category" without changing it)? Please clarify this. Thanks. -- Snfonseka 17:52, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

My take on items
Thanks for bringing this issue up. I certainly agree that the items category needs work, but I wouldn't set it up exactly like your suggestion. I think "Inventory" is slightly misleading as group heading and would rather have it set up like this:


 * Equipment
 * Stays as is


 * Items (strip out armour and weapons from this category or make "items" the group heading and have equipment as a sub-heading)
 * Crafting items (lightning shard, frost rock, etc.)
 * Gifts
 * Plot items
 * Potions (slight problem as I would want to include all salves, poultices, etc. and they're not technically potions)
 * Recipes
 * Traps

So that's my proposal and until a bit of a consensus is reached I'd suggest we hold off making changes. Loleil 23:17, January 11, 2010 (UTC)


 * I've begun a forum topic (Forum:Item categories) to get some community feedback. Loleil 00:36, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Items
You might want to hold off adding Items to the Wiki - Pwr905 has all the items ready to be uploaded already. Furthermore, I advise against using a high/low buy/sell system. The game only keeps tracks of the item value. The markup and markdowns are associated with the merchants. --Tierrie 18:03, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Quest Items
I would stick with just the Quest Items page for now; when that is in a final state then I think moving on to Usable Items (a much larger category, it seems) can begin. I do have a comment, though. Let me know your thoughts on this. - Pwr905 20:05, January 12, 2010 (UTC)
 * 1) Take a peak at the wikicode for the Item Sets page; notice the transclusion. I'm presuming it was setup this way (and the many pages for items with little else on them besides an infobox) so that new users can have a centralized, relatively easy to edit location (ie: a page; not a page with a ton of table code on it) - along with the other benefits.
 * 2) Applying this logic to the Quest Items page, you now have a tricky situation since some of the quest items are redirects to a quest page, which makes it difficult.


 * I would try and give the page a more uniform look - in the sense of maybe changing the large headings to slightly smaller ones, change the Description section to a lead sentence if possible, etc. As to whether to categorize Juggernaut Armor (and other things like that), I'm not sure. I'll have to think on that.


 * I'll change the sidebar sometime later today.- Pwr905 16:24, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'd been considering changing the quest items to plot items, to match the in game description, but am happy to add a link while that is being resolved. I shall add runes. Loleil 22:32, January 14, 2010 (UTC)
 * I added the lines to ItemTransformer. I've upgraded the tables to sortable tables - which required some changes at the Header and Row level. In addition, Pwr905 is going to upload all the Items soon. So you might want to work on that. --Tierrie 22:35, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Its not showing up because you're not using the template correctly. You designed the ItemTables to be an independent table per row (old-style Item Tables). You're passing Toxin Extract as an row parameter to the template ItemTableHeader, which does not accept parameters. You will need to modify your ItemTableHeader and ItemTableRow to the new style - as actual table and table rows.

In addition, I might be making changes to the ItemTables in the near future as part of Project Juggernaut. Giving you a heads up. --Tierrie 20:41, January 15, 2010 (UTC)
 * I'll be glad when all the items are sorted too! Hopefully all the legwork we're doing now will make future expansions and games much easier to deal with. Loleil 21:55, January 15, 2010 (UTC)


 * I turned the ItemTableHeader into a table outline and ItemTableRow into rows for you. I apologize that there isn't an article for this (yet). I was going to do all the Tables for consistency and didn't occur to me that someone might take the initiative on one of them. Thanks for your work on it! -- 20:20, January 16, 2010 (UTC)