User talk:Zoev/Archive 2

Re:Tower of Ishal
Yep I agree with your suggestion to create a quest page for the Tower of Ishal quest and to keep the location page for history and maybe the list of enemies as well. Loleil 01:22, January 5, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Character vs. Creature
Yet another issue not set in stone! I'd been working off the idea that humanoid equals character and monster equals creature as it seemed the easiest idea to follow, although I think there would be exceptions for creatures who have a developed personality. However, I don't think this is an issue where there is a right answer so I think now would be a good time to make the definition concrete. How would you feel about using the humanoid equals character and monster equals creature as a guideline? Loleil 20:36, January 7, 2010 (UTC)
 * It really seems like one of those issues where each option is as good as the other. I'll have a think and come to decision soonish . Loleil 21:14, January 7, 2010 (UTC)

hey fancy a deep DA chat lol
hey i have noticed u have done a lot on these pages an was thinkin of havin a dead deep DA chat if ur up 4 it

Re: Grey Warden Membership
I love it! As well as a neat way to include one note characters, without trying to shoehorn them into other articles, it's like we now have our own copy of the Grey Warden registry hehe. Loleil 22:40, January 8, 2010 (UTC)

RE: Items pages
Alrighty, not a problem. This is for the benefit for the site not a hinderence. I'll be sure to drop a note to Tierrie when I have complete to see if it is fine or if it is not need. :D Hollowness 16:41, January 9, 2010 (UTC)
 * No worries, I am just doing something to pass the time, and major projects I'll post on my blog (if you ever want to see what I am working on) and drop a note to Tierrie or whomever I should give a heads up too. I wasn't planning on any major changes until I was finished and was going to ask around anyways at that time you got me from the get go which is great :D and I defiantly Am looking forward working with others and helping out. Hollowness 17:02, January 9, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Lore Category Tree
That's quite the proposal! Here's my initial thoughts.

Tick Tick I suggested the culture category for Slavery and Sexuality and Marriage as they cover multiple races and nations, everything else in this category can go elsewhere, but I'm still not sure where we can slot those two. Perhaps "Lore" would be sufficient. Tick Agree with deletion of factions Although Chantry belongs in groups I would put all that extra stuff under Category:Religion only. Tick Tick Tick Tick and Free Marchians ? At least we don't have to deal with that one yet. Tick and agree with deletion of non-playable races Tick I not sure about this one is as necessary as some others, but it still seems like a good idea. I'd actually been considering making a new page called "Titles" and merging all the titles, with the exception of Paragon, into one page and then lumping it into lore, but either way I think it is okay to go as a category.
 * Category:Beast Lore
 * Category:Codex
 * Category:Culture
 * Category:Darkspawn and the Blight
 * Category:Factions
 * Category:Groups
 * Category:Grey Warden Lore
 * Category:Circle of Magi
 * Category:History
 * Category:Nations
 * Category:Races
 * Category:Religion
 * Category :Sources
 * Category:Titles

Oh and after thinking about it I think it seems logical to make bestial things creatures and save characters for the HEDQ's (with some wriggle room for ambiguous characters like The Architect). I think the most important thing is that both boxes have any relevant fields. Anyhow, I really like your suggested changes to the lore category and think it will make it a whole lot more comprehensive and easier to navigate. Loleil 05:42, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm I think you can get started (it seems like a non-controversial change), maybe you could just leave a note on the category page explaining what's happening. If I can help let me know. As to the pictures, I think this is an issue where all or nothing works best. So we should remove or overwrite ASAP, as nice as they are. Loleil 07:40, January 10, 2010 (UTC)
 * Thanks for letting me know. I had a chance to think about what seemed like the most important lore articles when I was doing the sidebar and would still stick with most of the ones there as my top lore articles, though I think adding Ferelden is a good idea too, especially if the merge goes ahead.
 * That's alright. It was hidden in plain sight! Speaking of things hidden in plain sight, I just saw your message about editing the mediawiki createplate list. I think that might be exactly what I need to tinker with, so I'll give it a shot. Loleil 05:08, January 11, 2010 (UTC)

Codex and so forth
Zoev! My fine scotch drinking Scot. While I was on vacation I took the time to figure out the Generic File Format(GFF) that is used by BioWare in its exports and I have managed to parse and export the data within each file. What this means is that I can easily convert all the Codex entries into human readable text files for you to cut and paste into the Wiki.

This is obviously a few weeks too late for your current project (Codex). But, in the future, if you have other interests (conversation tree, etc), I can convert the information for you. --Tierrie 01:05, January 12, 2010 (UTC)


 * I have a fondness for puzzles, Scotch and perplexing women. And the GFF was puzzling enough that I felt that it was fun to figure it out over a relaxing break from one of the latter. Send me your email and I will email you and My Favorite Admin™ the data.
 * And as for the punishment for masquerading as a Scotswoman - I believe the Scots has an invention so horribly tedious and banal that it can only be categorized as torture. Watching golf. Let that be a lesson to you and the Britons to never culturally annex a country again. --Tierrie 01:40, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

re: WikiSticky/WantedPages
Hey. I've poked around and looked at some discussions on this, and here's what I've found. What I've found from reading these things, though, is that it is tricky business all around. For example, the english wikipedia has stopped using Special:WantedPages (talk page and various discussion here) because of related reasons. Obviously, the scale of that site presents it's own unique issues and problems, but I do believe your question is similar to the problems they encountered.
 * 1) It is possible.
 * 2) The Special: pages are PHP scripts sitting on a server somewhere.
 * 3) Because the wiki is divided up into namespaces, the php script could filter out "unwanted" namespaces.

As to "fixing" it, manually editing out some of the pages we know we don't want ('Memorable Quotes', as you pointed out) is an option ... but probably has subtle ramifications. Yet another forum topic, maybe. - Pwr905 16:37, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

See Also vs Main
There used to be a semantic difference between Main and Template:See Also that necessitates the colon. But, after reviewing See Also@Wikipedia I have gone ahead and added the colon after Template:See Also. --Tierrie 17:36, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

Picture problems
Hmm some of the pictures you linked to work, some not. During my time here pictures seem to off-line sporadically, but usually only for a day or two. If it takes longer than that I would go on to wiki staff, but it's certainly not just you. Loleil 22:41, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Oooo. Magical! Let me know when it's up and running. I would love to see it on the front page. Loleil 22:53, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * The only size that needs to be set is a width of 300, height has a bit more leeway. As to content, I would like it to feature our best and brightest pics from all categories, so anything you think is particularly good, or I could come up with a preliminary list if you prefer. Thanks! Loleil 03:23, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

Template Variables
Looks like &lt;choose&gt; and &lt;option&gt; tags don't allow you to use wiki variables within them. Based on a simple test here - User:Tierrie/Sandbox --Tierrie 23:45, January 13, 2010 (UTC)
 * Further reading showed that its a current bug with template parameters inside choose tags. --Tierrie 00:00, January 14, 2010 (UTC)

In uthenara
I noticed that you recently edited it so I guessed you'd be the appropriate person to ask. Why does it have a spoiler alert?Warden Of The Dales 01:23, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

The last half of the last sentence? I understood none of it.

Scratch that I understand now.Warden Of The Dales 01:38, January 17, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Gallery sections and new Creature articles
I certainly don't mind having galleries for pages with lots of suitable images. The only thing I would do differently is that I wouldn't include pictures that have already been used in the article, in the gallery. And it looks like we do don't have a page template for creatures, so I shall get going on making one. 03:56, January 19, 2010 (UTC)

Administrator
Zoev, we need more active administrators and you're the best candidate around. Are you interested in being an administrator? If so, I will start The Calling. Remember, there's no turning back. And not every recruit survives. :) -- 20:50, January 22, 2010 (UTC)
 * If you break your games again, go to your BioWare/Dragon Age directory and delete the packages and modules directory. All of it. This was a bug in the old version of the toolset. It has since been fixed. Quick question. Laphroig, cask strength. Worth it? -- 06:56, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Ready to randomize the front page
I got stuck at seventeen featured articles (it's hard to find articles that are finished, and can 100-150 spoiler free words written about them!), but I think that that is close enough that you can fire up your featured article randomizer. Loleil 01:49, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Nooo! That is heartbreaking indeed. I shall keep my fingers crossed that it comes back. I haven't noticed anything like that on the front page, but I've just installed Windows 7 which seems to have sent my internet speed back to dial-up days, so I'm just struggling to get pages to load at the moment :p. Loleil 02:34, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * I know. I was surprised how difficult it was too. Maybe we can use Alistair, if we leave out the parentage and use the info from the BioWare wiki, and maybe some of the good side quest articles? Hopefully the wiki stickies shall reappear soon. I thought I saw Tierrie creating one the other day, perhaps he knows the secret. Loleil 22:15, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Its a magical ritual involving a skull, red candles and cotton candy. I'd tell you guys more, but I'm not sure you can handle the cotton candy. Its tough stuff. -- 00:33, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Please don't say any more Tierrie, the images alone are enough to scare me! As to spoilers, I say we consider the BioWare backgrounds non-spoilers. They don't have impact on the plot, and it shall make our featured article database that much easier to fill! Loleil 03:09, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * Chant of Light is looking good for an FA. I haven't got anything else in mind, so feel free to create away. And I see Tierrie has begun your Calling, looking like your chances of survival are high . Loleil 07:13, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

"Magic" category
I can remove, I just thought it was necessary to have it Magic but if that wasn't the intention for the category not a problem. :) 06:12, January 24, 2010 (UTC)
 * Not a problem, I am not here to throw everything out of balance of its true intentions, I am still going back to the pages I already created anyways (mistakes and such), so don't you worry. Thanks, I am trying to make it worth having the page and keep clutter off the other pages :)  06:17, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Screencaps/Pictures
Hey there Zoev,

I noticed you uploaded a screenie or two and was wondering if you could be troubled to upload a screencap of the menu screen from when you boot up the game for inclusion in regard to the Trivia sections for Asala and Yusaris which I added.

I happen to have the 360 version of the game, and as such can't take screenshots :( (though I'm sure some technophile knows how to run the xbox through a pc, I dont)

Thanks, if its too much trouble don't worry about it :)

KarasuX 08:44, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

GO FOR THE EYES, BOO!

Re: Start Screen
Thanks a bunch for taking that screen cap for me! haha yeah it sorta sucks when you want to include content from the game when you are running the console version.

Saw that your a fellow Baldur's Gate fan. :) "Miniature giant space hamsters" FTW KarasuX 09:01, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Easy Timeline
According to the installed extensions, it already exists on this wikia. Give it a go. -- 18:24, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Wiki stickies
It must be admins only then. I see a honking huge Edit button on that page. And just because I can. I pressed it a few times but added nothing to the article. Kidding aside, what would you like me to add to it? -- 06:51, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Codex Entries for DLC
Hi Zoev, I have a favor to ask. There's a subheader in the DLC's entitled Codex. I intended for this to be a simple list/link to the Codex entries for these DLCs. I was wondering if you could help me link/fill it out? They are respectively The_Stone_Prisoner and Warden's Keep. -- 07:14, January 25, 2010 (UTC)
 * I use FireFox haven't noticed anything wrong with the wiki at all. -- 08:01, January 25, 2010 (UTC)

Re: The Calling Characters
I inadvertantly deleted a few characters from the The Calling before I realized that you might have intended for them as placeholders. I will see if I can undelete them, but if I can't, I'll get the next round! -- 01:07, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * I feel that its important that a person take responsibility and try to fix their own mistakes. As such, I've restored the pages and reverted the tag that was used. I usually leave these things to Loleil and don't usually handle the cleanup. She's much better at it than I am. So, she better make you an admin soon! That way I can kick back and get to my technical jiggamawassits. -- 01:15, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Promotion to admin complete
Just wanted to let you know that you are now an admin and I'm sure you'll do great. Looking at the maintenance reports under special pages is always a good place to keep an eye on things that need doing, and Help:Administrators' how-to guide is worth a read too. I'm very glad to have you on the team. Loleil 07:09, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Another thing you should do is totally go to this user's page and then delete whatever she's working on. I hear it's endearing. -- 07:59, January 28, 2010 (UTC)
 * Grats on the promo! :D 01:49, January 29, 2010 (UTC)